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70-200/2.8E D850 PDAF with FocusTune

December 23, 2017 JimK 6 Comments

This is a continuation of a series of posts on the Nikon D850.  The series starts here. You should be able to find all the posts about that camera in the Category List on the right sidebar, below the Articles widget. There’s a drop-down menu there that you can use to get to all the posts in this series; just look for “D850”.

In this post, we saw that the Nikon 105 mm f/1.4 lens exhibited focus shift for which the D850’s phase-detection autofocus (PDAF) system couldn’t compensate. I know from testing the 105/1.4 that it has a lot of focus shift. The 105/1.4 can be thought of as a kind of specialist lens. Today, we’ll look at adjusting the autofocus compensation setting for a very common (and quite wonderful) lens: the Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR. Don’t you love all those obscure letters? The tool that I’ll use for analysis is FocusTune. 

  • LensAlign target
  • Target distance 10 feet
  • Shutter speed 1/640 second
  • Aperture f/2.8 and f/8
  • ISO 64 for f/2.8 and 640 for f/8
  • Two Wescott 1×2 foot LED panels at full brightness for illumination
  • 10 exposures at each AF tuning setting

The scene as seen by the camera with the lens set to 200 mm:

Here’s a plot with the lens focal length set to 105 mm and the aperture to f/2.8:

 

The horizontal axis is the autofocus compensation value entered into the camera for each set of data points. Where the camera focused for each data point is indicated by a green dot. The correct focusing plane is the red line. I don’t understand the vertical units, and I’m treating them as arbitrary. The gray circles are a visual indication of the standard deviation (sigma) of the samples at each AF tuning value.

And the same setup, but stopped down to f/8:

This shows that an AF compensation setting of +2 will work at both f-stops, and presumably everything in between. 

Is it going to be easy to tune this lens? Turns out it has a few curves to throw at us. 

I next set the focal length to 200 mm and made a pair of plots.

First, at f/2.8:

 

And at f/8:

Whoa! The wide open optimum AF trim value is about the same as at 105 mm, but the lens takes a -12 at f/8!

Now at 70 mm and f/2.8:

And at f/8:

The +3 value that works for both apertures at 105mm and f/2.8 at 200 mm will be OK when the lens is wide open at 70 mm. But the right value for f/8 is about -5. 

If we knew the units of the vertical axis, we might be able to tell if the depth of field will cover up focusing errors at f/8 at both ends of the zoom range if we set the compensation to +3. But I don’t know that, and the fact that the slope of the curve changes with f-stop tells me that it’s probably not focal plane distance difference.

 

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Comments

  1. Gerard Hope says

    December 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    Reading these last few posts, I have to echo your earlier sentiment, Jim – my A7RII has spoiled me. I could never go back to DSLR land and deal with this nonsense again. These results are all over the place – even with brand new lenses. Judging by years of repressed experience, I dread to think what kind of charts we’d see with the 12MP D700/D3 era and older lenses.

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  2. Edna says

    December 31, 2017 at 10:45 am

    Will you be looking at Lloyd’s issue for LENR on the 850 ?

    https://diglloyd.com/blog/2017/20171229_1844-NikonD850-noise-LENR.html

    Hope so – happy new year!

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    • JimK says

      December 31, 2017 at 10:48 am

      I can, but I don’t use LENR on any camera except under very special circumstances, so it’s not at the top of my priority list.

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  3. Chris Alleyne-Levy says

    December 7, 2018 at 7:59 am

    I just bought Reikan Focal and it is alright. But is FocusTune better? Does Focustune have automatic control of the d850 or do you have to do a lot of intervention and fooling around with the camera, like in Focal?

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    • JimK says

      December 7, 2018 at 8:38 am

      I don’t remember much about FocusTune. I’m using my own software now. Sorry.

      Reply

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