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EFCS and Bokeh — a7RII with Sony 90/2.8 macro

December 23, 2015 JimK 7 Comments

There was a recent post on DPR that showed dramatic effects on bokeh of EFCS. It was a apples/oranges comparison, with the mechanical and EFCS shutter speed different from each other, and the EFCS set to 1/8000, which is clearly out of the range where EFCS usually works well.

Still, it got me thinking, and I ran a quick test with a Sony a7RII and the Sony 90mm f/2.8 macro lens. I set the lens wide open, and the ISO to 640. I lit the subject with a Westcott LED panel, with color temperature set to 5000K and output on full. That gave me 1/1000 second shutter speed. I made exposures with EFCS on and off. Then I turned the light down a stop, and did the same at 1/500 second. I continued along those lines until I got to 1/60 second.

I developed the images in the current version of Lr CC, with default settings except the WB was set to 5000K/0, and a slight exposure boost.

Here are the images:

1/1000 EFCS on
1/1000 EFCS on
1/1000 EFCS off
1/1000 EFCS off
1/500 EFCS on
1/500 EFCS on
1/500 EFCS off
1/500 EFCS off
1/250 EFCS on
1/250 EFCS on
1/250 EFCS off
1/250 EFCS off
1/125 EFCS on
1/125 EFCS on
1/125 EFCS off
1/125 EFCS off
1/60 EFCS on
1/60 EFCS on
1/60 EFCS off
1/60 EFCS off

There are some exposure variations at higher speeds. We expect this. The bokeh differences appear to be minimal to me. However, in theory, there should be bokeh effects of EFCS at high speeds, since the electronic first curtain is in a different plane than the mechanical first and second curtains. Thus, depending on the characteristics of the lens the subject distance, the f-stop, and the place where you look in the image, we should see some differences. They don’t appear to be important here — the exposure variation is more noticeable — but they probably would be at higher shutter speeds.

That’s moot, because we probably wouldn’t use those speeds due to exposure variation. I’ll make some more tests with other lenses.

 

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Comments

  1. Lynn Allan says

    December 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    I don’t see any difference either.

    Was the expectation that the light waves “flowing past the diaphragm blades” would be different with the shutter itself in a slightly different plane?

    Isn’t the diaphragm in the same place, regardless of EFCS or not?

    Some of the article was “over my head” … less so than many articles, but I especially don’t understand the concluding statement:
    > That’s moot, because we probably wouldn’t use those speeds due to exposure variation. I’ll make some more tests with other lenses.

    And again: the blog shows “One Thought”, but I don’t see any comments. Your’s missing? I tend to be especially interested in blog articles with one or several comments. I really doubt you are trying to “click bait” me 🙂

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    • Jim says

      December 27, 2015 at 8:31 am

      The difference is that the two shutter curtains are in different planes when EFCS is selected, and the symmetry of the shadows of the two curtains in fully mechanical shutter is lost. Horshack did a good post on this on dpr. Maybe I can find it.

      Jim

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  2. Lynn Allan says

    December 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    My bad? in previous comment. I don’t really understand bokeh, and may have confused it with diffraction at closed apertures like f11 and more closed.

    Maybe put me on the blog’s “ignore filter”? 🙁

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    • Jim says

      December 26, 2015 at 6:03 pm

      You’ll be pleased to know that I don’t have an ignore filter, except Akismet.

      Reply
  3. Lynn Allan says

    December 27, 2015 at 6:49 am

    Just curious … right now my browser shows 4 comments instead of 3, before I submit this one. Will your browser show an accurate number of 4 once this comment is accepted?

    This glitch also happens with Chrome, IE-11, and Edge on Win-10. Am I the only experiencing this?

    Another OT question: Have you submitted this series to any of the DPR forums? It doesn’t “fit” for the Sony e-mount forum that I am most active on. I do occasionally check “Science and Tech”, Printing, Retouching, Canon full-frame, and Nikon One.

    It does seem your blog articles get a lot more participation on the HUGE DPR forum, which makes sense, but has mixed benefits.

    Reply
    • Jim says

      December 27, 2015 at 8:28 am

      After approving your comment, and before posting this reply, I see five comments, one of which is a pingback. Maybe you’re not counting the pingbacks?

      Jim

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  1. EFCS and Bokeh — a7RII with Otus 85/1.4 | The Last Word says:
    December 24, 2015 at 9:09 am

    […] is a rerun of yesterday’s bokeh vs shutter speed testing, with EFCS on and off, but with a different lens, the Zeiss Otus 85mm […]

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