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Fujifill GFX 50S — summary

April 28, 2017 JimK 15 Comments

This is the 51st in a series of posts on the Fujifilm GFX-50S. The series starts here.

It’s been more than a month of testing the GFX every day, and now I’m getting ready to actually use the camera for a project, so now is a good time to summarize my thoughts.

Ergonomics, displays, menus, buttons, handling. Excellent. The interface is little strange for a non-Fuji shooter like me, but it’s logical once you get it figured out. Thoughtful controls, nicely customizable. I wrote up a detailed summary here. One thing I didn’t mention in that post was the large color live histogram that’s accessible at the touch of a button (I changed the button). I’ve never seen that before, and it makes exposure selection easy and as accurate as can be given that it’s still not a real raw histogram. The articulated EVF adapter works well and is sturdy (not cheap, though).

Native Lenses. Very good (the 63) to superb (the 120 macro) image quality. I am not a focus-by-wire fan, however, in this or any other camera. The fact that the 63 doesn’t seem to be able to constantly hold the focus point even with the camera continuously on is a worry at best, and a random image-damager at worst. [Added later: I’ve now tested the 110/2 and the 23/4, and they are up to the high standards of the 120/4. The 110/2 is in some important ways a better lens than the Zeiss Otus 85/1.4.]

Adapted lenses.  Few (I’ve only found one, the Zeiss 135/2 Apo Sonnar) full frame lenses cover completely unless they are macro lenses. Several full frame lenses do well at full-height images with 4:5 and 1:1 aspect ratios, though. I have not found a full frame lens with a focal length shorter than 55 mm that gives a really good performance at a broad range of apertures out to even the corners of a 1:1 image. Hasselblad HC lenses are a mixed bag, with some providing mediocre performance at the fine pixel pitch of the GFX, and some doing all right, but none are great. HCD lenses would be better, but I haven’t tested any. Note that I have not tested the following HC lenses: 50, 120 macro version II, 210, or 300. One of the best V-series Hasselblad lenses, the 250/5.6 Superachromat, works well on the GFX, but the ergonomics are not good. Unless you really want to use the corners, you’d be better off with Leica R glass in similar (180mm and 280mm) focal lengths. A lot of the Hasselblad V-series lenses can’t utilize the sharpness that the fine-pitched GFX sensor has available. Long Leica M-mount lenses like the 90/2 Apo ‘cron and the 135/3.4 Apo-Telyt also work fine, except in the extreme corners.

Manual focusing.  Once you realize that the peaking is overactive and that the max magnification is anemic, and you figure out how to get around all that, it’s pretty good. Not great, for sure, but good enough to get consistent focusing that’s nearly optimum (with lenses this sharp, you’ll not get bang on focusing every time no matter how good the focus aids are, IMHO).

Autofocusing. Inconsistent with both the 63 and the 120. However, the problematic f-stops are few, and you can work around them while we wait for the firmware fix that I devoutly hope is coming. The errors are small enough that they won’t affect many kinds of photography. I didn’t do much with autofocus speed, but the mechanism is contrast detection, so don’t expect jack-rabbit performance. There is no inherent reason why CDAF should be inaccurate, though, if you give it enough time. [I’ve found that changing focus modes can ameliorate this to some extent.]

Sensor. Exemplary. 14 bit precision in all modes, including electronic shutter. No gratuitous signal processing that can’t be turned off. Low read noise. Decent full well capacity. Good photographic dynamic range. I was worried that the small microlenses that are part of what makes the sensor so sharp would cause a lot of aliasing; they do cause some, but it’s not much worse than 100% fill factor cameras. I was a little put off by the ¼ second scan time in ES mode, but upon reflection, I’m glad they did it that way and kept the 14-bit precision even when using the fully electronic shutter.

IQ as compared to the a7RII and the D810. With the same top-notch lenses on all three cameras, the GFX is better. It measures better and it looks better if you pixel-peep. However, you’ll have to print large to see a material difference in the finished work. With 15 inch (38 cm) high prints, you won’t see much of a difference. With 30 inch (76 cm) high prints, if your technique is good, you will see a worthwhile difference. But here’s the surprise: at least with the two Fuji native lenses I’ve tested, you see a much more significant difference if you compare all three cameras with their respective manufacturers’ lenses. Whether this quality advantage that Fuji has — with their figurative toe in the lens water — will continue when they have a complete line of lenses is an unanswered question. [Added 10/18. That question is answered in the affirmative, at least so far.] Fuji lenses prices are high by full frame standards, but bargains compared to Hassy H-mount and Phase One. Unless we start seeing some top-notch third-party G-mount lenses, ultimately, the main potential image quality advantage of the GFX rests on the Fuji lenses that are to come. Sure, some may buy the camera to get a skosh more out of their Otus 55s and 85s, but that’s never going to be a big market.

What’s it good for? Landscapes. Still lifes. Studio work. On-location portraits. Fashion. Weddings, but you’ll probably want to bring along something that focuses faster for the candids.

What’s it not good for? Sports. Wildlife.

What’s it overkill for? Travel photography, unless you’ve got a market that really wants image quality. Product shots. Street work.

 

 

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Comments

  1. David Braddon-Mitchell says

    May 3, 2017 at 11:46 pm

    Over at the blog of that subscription based reviewer from the west coast, thre’s a comment that the coverglass on the Fuji GX50s is 9mm in front of the sensor, and a link to the Fuji site which explains it.

    Quite a good idea for the reasons that they mention; perhaps also commercially a good idea because it may limit the performance of lenses not designed for it?

    Reply
    • JimK says

      May 4, 2017 at 7:05 am

      I asked around about that when the camera was announced. The answer I got from the optical experts was that the thickness was the most important thing. They didn’t think 9mm would make much difference. But I’m not knowledgeable enough to say for sure. I haven’t tried to use M-mount lenses or tech cam lenses on the sensor, which would be the acid test.

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      • David Braddon-Mitchell says

        May 4, 2017 at 2:49 pm

        Yep I got a friend to plug that gap into an OSLO simulation and he agrees that the gap doesn’t make a material difference to the simulated MTF. So it’ll be interesting to find out what the thickness. I’d suspect it’d be thicker than smaller formats if only for strength, but who knows…

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        • JimK says

          May 4, 2017 at 3:09 pm

          Lloyd Chambers thinks it could be 3.1mm thick, which is pretty thick:

          https://diglloyd.com/blog/2017/20170503_2230-FujifilmGFX-sensor-cover-glass.html

          Jim

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          • David Braddon-Mitchell says

            May 4, 2017 at 5:39 pm

            Precision scale on that diagram Lloyd found is a big assumption, but yes, that is pretty thick. So native lenses for this one, ideally.

            It’ll be interesting to see how FF lenses on a (hypothetical) 100MP FF sensor compare. Of course we’ll get a 100MP version of the Fuji very likely at some point, but that may be beyond the resolution threshold most of us care about (though that does seem to keep getting pushed back!)

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  2. william says

    May 6, 2017 at 5:43 am

    So, the worse case scenario is M lens performance is compromised?

    So what?

    How many units would FUJIFILM not sell?

    Reply
  3. Mike C says

    June 7, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    I’m a little late to the party, but at what point do you see a material difference in IQ between the GFX and a7rii on a desktop or laptop display? It obviously depends on screen size/brightness etc., but just curious if you’ve noticed a difference on the displays and settings that you typically use to enjoy images.

    Thanks!
    Mike

    Reply
    • JimK says

      June 7, 2017 at 4:54 pm

      Nearly full frame with the same lens on both cameras? I don’t see a difference on a 4K display.

      Reply
  4. Servaas says

    October 24, 2020 at 7:18 am

    What woud be your opinion on my Hasselblad (V) Carl Zeiss 60mm 3.5 on my Fujifilm GFX-50R (using a Cambo Actus) ?
    Can it utilize the sharpness that the fine-pitched GFX sensor has available ? Or should I go and find a better solution ?
    I have the feeling that it is razor-sharp in shots of roughly 1 to 2 metres, but when I photograph, for example, a small house at 6 metres, detail is lost. Is there any logic in this or am I just imagining it?

    Thanks.
    S

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    • JimK says

      October 24, 2020 at 8:05 am

      I doubt if that lens will stress the sensor’s resolving power. But that’s not necessarily a bad thing, since it means there will be no aliasing. It was meant to cover a much larger area, and lens technology has changed a lot in the last 40 years. But if you own it, you might as well use it. You would probably be better off with a 60 mm Apo Componon HM, but I’m not sure it will focus to infinity with the Actus.

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      • Servaas says

        October 24, 2020 at 8:15 am

        thanks for your reply!
        I’m struggling with focusing. (However, I am used to manual focus (D810&TS45mm).
        Both the fujfilm, the actus and the lens are new to me so I hope that it will be a matter of time before I can work more efficiently with them. Focusing is currently more guessing than shooting with confidence.. (your page on manual focusing helped) Hopefully Fuji will give us a better LCD screen in the future.

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        • JimK says

          October 24, 2020 at 8:18 am

          The Actus focusing rail is quite sensitive, which makes shorter lenses hard to focus at greater than macro distances.

          Reply
          • Servaas says

            October 24, 2020 at 8:51 am

            That’s why I started using the focus ring on the lens today 🙂 (and my laser distance meter). Curious to see if things will get better.
            However, I always shoot on f11, which makes me think that it shouldn’t be measured correctly down to the millimetre…
            Can I mail you some images of the project I’m working on to see if you could have some advice ?

            Reply
            • JimK says

              October 24, 2020 at 8:56 am

              If you perform this test, I’ll look at the raws.

              https://blog.kasson.com/lens-screening-testing/

              Reply
              • Servaas says

                October 25, 2020 at 12:38 am

                Ok, thanks!

                Reply

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