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a7SII star-eater workaround

January 9, 2018 JimK 8 Comments

A few weeks ago, I published a way to circumvent the star-eater spatial filtering that the Sony a7RII with current firmware silently switches to for exposures of longer than 3.2 seconds. Several people asked me if that trick worked with the a7SII. I didn’t know, and couldn’t find out since I had no access to that camera.

Today, Ian Norman, of lonelyspeck.com, provided me with three dark frames from the a7SII. All were 4-second uncompressed exposures at ISO 1600, but with different drive modes.

I performed my frequency analysis on the red raw channels. Here’s the result with the drive in single shot mode:

We’ve seen this before, and it is the star-eater signature.

In single shot mode, the a7SII operates with 14-bit precision when writing uncompressed files.

With the drive set to what Ian calls Speed Priority Continuous:

No star-eating. Some horizontal falloff with increasing frequency, though.

In this drive mode, the camera only can manage 12-bit precision:

 

In what Ian calls rapid-fire continuous mode (I’m taking him at his word on these names; I have never seen the camera):

 

That looks like there’s no star-eating taking place, and the horizontal trace looks better than the speed-priority one.

In this mode, the camera is also 12 bits:

To net it out, it looks like the workaround will work for the a7SII as well as the a7RII.

Thanks, Ian.

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Comments

  1. Mikhail says

    January 11, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    The nature of these peaks is extremely interesting.

    Reply
    • JimK says

      January 11, 2018 at 5:11 pm

      You want to expand on that?

      Reply
  2. Florian says

    January 12, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    Do you have information regarding the star-eater behavior of the A7-II? I would like to purchase one, but only if the workaround applies to it.
    Thanks a lot for the insightful analysis of the problem and your technical commentary on focus adjustments.
    Greetings from Germany

    Reply
    • JimK says

      January 12, 2018 at 8:15 pm

      Do you have information regarding the star-eater behavior of the A7-II?

      I do not, nor do I have access to the camera anymore. Sorry.

      Reply
  3. Mike Broomfield says

    January 18, 2018 at 6:53 am

    Jim, from the Sony A7sII help guide (I don’t have one either), here is a description of the drive modes;

    Single Shooting:
    Shoots one still image. Normal shooting mode.

    Cont. Shooting:
    Shoots images continuously while you press and hold down the shutter button.

    Spd Priority Cont.:
    Shoots images continuously at high speed while you press and hold down the shutter button.
    The product continues to shoot as long as the shutter button is pressed. You can continuously shoot at a rate faster than that of [Cont. Shooting].

    No other info that I could see (eg actual frame rates or bit depth etc)
    Regards

    Mike B

    Reply
  4. Ian Patterson says

    June 1, 2019 at 1:34 am

    So there was a may 2019 firmware update. One of the release notes says: “Improved image quality when Long Exposure NR setting is OFF”

    Worth revisiting?

    Reply
  5. Craig Johnson says

    October 2, 2020 at 11:42 pm

    Do you Know if the workaround will work for the A7R IV? Thanks,

    Reply
    • JimK says

      October 3, 2020 at 6:23 am

      No, I don’t. SOrry.

      Reply

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