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Shooting an event with the Sony a7RII

December 27, 2016 JimK 9 Comments

I photographed a Christmas Eve church service a couple of days ago. My initial plan was to take a D5 with a variable aperture 80-400 mm lens and a D810 with the 14-24 f/2.8. But then I got worried about the acoustical shutter noise. I knew people would be too polite to make it an issue, but I didn’t want to disturb anyone. So I went with Plan B. Two Sony a7RII bodies, one with the Sony 70-200 f/4 OSS zoom, and one with a Loxia 21mm f/2.8. I would use silent shutter.

A battle plan never survives first contact with the enemy. I took a few test shots before the service started, and here’s what I saw:

See those bands? Oops! The lighting looked incandescent, but turned out to be LED. Forget the silent shutter. If I had known that was going to happen, I would have brought the Nikon gear, but now that I was there and the service was about to start, I needed to soldier on with the Sonys, use the machanical shutter and EFCS, and not trip the shutter at quiet moments. A photographer doesn’t have much freedom in an event like this. There are only a couple of places I could stand, and I couldn’t move around except at infrequent breaks. And it was pretty dark. Fortunately, ultimate use of these images was for the church’s web site and Facebook page, and at the resolutions required for that, noise wasn’t going to be a problem.

I’ll show you some representative images now, then I’ll talk about my camera-use strategies at the end of this post.

I started out with an establishing shot of the parishioners with the 21, handheld using IBIS:

And one from the back of the church:

Next up, an establishing shot of the celebrants:

 

With the zoom on a tripod, I took several shots of the choir:

 

And of the organist and the church’s fancy new tracker organ console:

Then a few of the key participants with the zoom. There’s some subject motion evident. Does it help or hurt the image? I don’t know, myself.

 

At the end of the ceremony, they turned out the lights and everyone lit candles. I set the exposure compensation to -3 stops to save the highlights, and boosted the shadows in post. I could have brought up the shadows more, but I think I would have lost the candlelight feeling.

It’s pretty amazing what a  modern digital camera can do in near-darkness.

 Art it’s not. But I think these, and the 40-or-so other keepers, will be what the church wants.

A few technical notes. All told, I made about 450 exposures, and kept about a tenth that many images. I took two spare batteries, and didn’t need either of them; the camera’s were about half-charged at the end of the evening. 

So, although the a7RII is not my go-to camera for events, it performed credibly in this situation. I retain my dislike of the Sony AF point selection system and its lack of the direct access that both Nikon and Canon provide. With the manual-focus  Loxia 21, the most aggressive focus peaking setting proved too weak for use in fully-magnified view, and the weakest setting was too strong for use in full frame view. It would be very nice to be able to set the peaking strength separately for all three magnifications: full frame, mildly magnified, and highest magnification.

Using the camera mode that automatically magnifies the finder image when you twist the focusing ring was not the best way to go, since it disables a way to get an idea of the focus depth by observing the peaking in full frame mode. 

I used aperture-mode autoexposure exclusively, monitoring the shutter speed selected by the camera to make sure it was fast enough, and manually adjusting the aperture as necessary. I ended up using mostly f/5.6 and f/8 for the Loxia, and F/5.6 and f/4 for the 70-200 zoom. Since the a7RII is essentially ISOless above ISO 640, I set the exposure compensation control to either -2 or -3 stops, depending on the scene. That gave me highlight protection, and allowed me to push in post to compensate for the “underexposure” with no noise penalty. If I had used the D810, I would have used the same exposure strategy, but with the D5, I’d probably dial down the exposure compensation less.

I have programmed my a7RIIs to use manual switching between the finder and the back-of-camera LCD display, and that was great. For the Loxia, I used the EVF all the time. With the tripod-mounted zoom, I mostly used the LCD display. The LCD display and live view with the D5 provide roughly equivalent experiences, except for the fact that the manual-focusing aids on the a7RII are far superior. In the dim light of the church, the optical finder in the D5 would not be as easy to use as the EVF on the a7RII, and of course manual focusing in dim light with the D5’s finder would have been a cruel joke. And, just for the record, I am still not a fan of the way the Loxia 21’s mechanical design makes mounting and unmounting it such a PITA.

Knowing now that the a7RII silent shutter mode won’t work with the LED lighting in the church, if I had it to do over again, I’d probably take the Nikon gear, but it would have weighed a great deal more. On the other hand, if I needed a greater variety of lenses for an event job, I’d be tempted to take a7x gear to make the load manageable.

 

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Comments

  1. Erik Kaffehr says

    December 28, 2016 at 8:23 am

    Hi jim,

    Thanks for sharing!

    What is your take on the 70-200/4 and the Loxia 21 mm?

    Best regards
    Erik

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    • JimK says

      December 28, 2016 at 8:31 am

      The 70-200 is a bit soft near 200 mm and wide open. It’s quite light, though. I like it.

      The Loxia 21 is a sweetheart of a lens. Small, well-built, sharp. It only has one flaw: there is a thin part of the lens barrel that you have to find and hold steady when mounting and unmounting the lens, avoiding the much bigger focusing and aperture rings. It’s a bit of a pain. I think all the Loxias are like that.

      Jim

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    • JimK says

      December 28, 2016 at 8:47 am

      By the way, Erik, the new Nikon 70-200/2.8 that I didn’t take to the shoot looks to be a great lens. I’ll be reporting on it in the future.

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  2. CarVac says

    December 28, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    RE:Loxia 21 mounting/unmounting:

    My Contax lenses don’t have *any* non-rotating barrel sections to hold. I just set the aperture and focus rings to opposite stops (wide open and infinity focus are opposite directions, conveniently enough) and use both together to manipulate the lens when mounting or unmounting.

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    • JimK says

      December 29, 2016 at 6:54 am

      Yes. I can do something similar on the Loxia lenses, and have done so. However, I worry about exerting that much force on the stops of the rings. The Lox 21 mount does appear to be loosening up over time — it was initially very stiff — and I’m becoming less worried.

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  3. Brian Drinkwater says

    December 30, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    Personally, given the awesome moment, I’d take the banding any time. The clickity clack destroys what the service is all about. In my opinion anyway. Great captures. I’m sure all the participants appreciated your ‘silence’. Sometimes getting the ‘SHOT’ is not what it is about. Hence your original thought before hand.

    Really thoughtful work Jim.

    Brian

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  4. H. Ngo says

    January 3, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    Love your articles and the information in them! Lots of practical advice that I actually use (like your ISO 640 finding.)

    I have a similar camera selection quandry a couple weeks ago. My go-to camera for events is a Nikon D800 with either the 24-70 f/2.8 or 70-200 f/2.8 (I can’t justify upgrading to the D810, even though my wife would not object.) My second camera is typically the A7R2 with a Sigma 35 f/1.4 (Canon lens with adapter) or Sony 55 f/1.8. I too find it incredibly annoying that Sony doesn’t have focus point selection directly on the back dial without hitting three buttons first to get into that mode. So to me, if it’s an event where I have to nail the shots in a moving environment, it’s no contest; the Nikon focuses quicker and I can move the cursor around without taking my eye from the viewfinder.

    I recently shot a ceremony at a Catholic church though, so no flash allowed. I wanted to use the silent shutter option, so I went with just the A7R2. Luckily for me, the lighting was halogen, so no banding occurred. But, I definitely missed the nimbleness of the D800. There are good tradeoffs though going with the Sony: better high ISO performance vs. D800 (probably a stop or two better, though the D810 is proabably closer) and the option of taking reasonably good video.

    If Sony would actually listen to professional users and make minor changes to their UI, it would make their cameras much more competitive in professional settings. The focus selction is my biggest gripe, followed by a second SD slot (though that’s hardware and not firmware.)

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  5. JimK says

    January 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm

    I’ve received an interesting communication about the Loxia 21:

    …you mentioned en passant your frustration with Loxia 21mm ergonomics. Indeed! Mine was really driving me nuts given the combo of no solid grip point and (if Zeiss’s claim is true) my very uncommon issue of the lens requiring massive force and torque just to mount and remove on my a7Rii. I called them to inquire if the fact that the torquing/no grip point combo was going to ruin the lens, as I founs the setting rings constantly sliding to their max or minimum as I torqued and grunted and swore trying to mountand remove the lens, i.e., would I break one or both of the rings with all the force when they had already reached their extremes?

    Zeiss stated they had a few reports of this both in US and Germany and felt the blue weatherproofing gaskets were too thick; that they had either manufactured some new ones (I think they said something about taking them from Batis 25 component?, but didn’t press them for clarity). The punchline is I sent it in and they installed the new gasket, now it attaches with somewhat less force required, but, obviously, the same flawed ergonomics of setting rings pushed to their extremes.

    Zeiss claimed this occurrence would NOT hurt the lens, btw.

    Just wanted to let you know that they offer this solution if excess tightness in mount/removal is a part of your Loxia 21 annoyance.

    I gave them an earful about no fixed gripping portion on the lens barrel.

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  6. Andreas says

    January 16, 2019 at 5:17 am

    Hi Jim, thanks for the interesting insight.
    Did you find a solution for the banding in LED light situations with silent shutter besides not using it?

    Maybe this is of interest for you about the loxia mounting issue:
    https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-pocketpano-loxia-lens-grip/

    Thanks for all you great articles.
    Cheers Andreas

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