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Interim thoughts on the Hasselblad X2D 100C

October 7, 2022 JimK 14 Comments

This is the 19th in a series of posts on the Hasselblad X2D 100C camera and the XCD lenses. You will be able to find all the posts in this series by looking at the righthand column on this page and finding the Category “X2D”.

I’m had the X2D long enough to form some opinions. I’m by no means finished with my testing of the camera, so my conclusions have to be considered tentative, but I’m beginning to see the camera system more clearly. I should issue a caveat that I’ve only tested it with one native lens, the XCD 38/2.5 (or, if you’re across the pond, the XCD 2,5/38). I’ve been flipping back and forth between the X2D and the Fuji GFX 100S, so my impressions are somewhat relative. I think that’s appropriate, because the most logical camera to cross-shop against the X2D is that Fuji camera.

My X2D firmware has been reliable, as has the GFX 100S firmware. That is a departure from the early experiences of X1D owners, as reported on the ‘net. I myself never used the X1D.

By the standards of contemporary MILC cameras, the X2D feature set is incomplete. Some features that are expected on such cameras are MIA.

  • Focus peaking (now available via firmware update)
  • Variable focus magnification, combined with peaking
  • Live histogram (now available via firmware update)
  • Live overexposure zebras
  • AF-C
  • Focus bracketing (now available via firmware update)
  • Pixel shift
  • Lossless compressed raw
  • Cabled remote shutter release

There is reason to hope that those features, and more, will become available in future firmware releases, but I would advise against buying the camera based upon expectations of later improvements. There is no video, and Hasselblad says there won’t be. I don’t consider that a problem at all.

At this point, If you need critical focus, I don’t consider the X2D to offer acceptable focusing aids with adapted manual focus lenses. That is a serious drawback that can and should be fixed with a firmware mod. The new focus indicator, which is what Hasselblad calls PDAF focus confirmation, works better than most such implementations, but with an easy subject, AF provides more consistent and accurate focusing. The XCD 38 manual focusing ring is blessed with DOF scales (Halleluiah!) but the rotation, at a tad over 90 degrees, is too short for fast reliable critical focusing. If you’ve tried to focus normal and longer Leica M-mount lenses precisely, you’ll know what I mean. There is a way around this oversensitive behavior: leave the lens focusing ring in AF position, but select MF mode in the camera. Then you get focus by wire.

The Hasselblad user interface is clean, and fairly easy to navigate if you use the touch screen. Even if the above features were added, it could still be clean and readily usable. Startup is not lightning fast, but is not an issue for me.  I’d like to see a few more programmable buttons. They diopter adjustment in the EVF is implemented in a novel way, and I like it. The EVF itself is sharp and clear. All in all, the user experience of the X2D reminds me of that of the Leica Q2, and that’s not a bad thing at all.

I don’t like the strap lugs. They’re the same as the lugs on the GFX 50S Mk I, and I didn’t like those, either. I’ve had straps decouple themselves from those kinds of lugs in the past, and even if you can catch the camera before it hits the ground, it’s not a pleasant experience, and could be an expensive one.

I like the built-in solid state disk. There’s not much reason to use a flash card except for redundancy. Transfer time is fast over the USB-C port.

I don’t find much difference between the physical handling of the X2D with the 38 and the GFX 100S with the 45 GF.

There have been reports of AF issues in some situations, but I’ve never encountered any problems.

The mechanical shutter in the XCD 38 is quiet, and seems to introduce little vibration. The lens appears to be within a hair of being as sharp as the Fuji GF 45, which I think is the most comparable Fuji lens. The XCD lens is priced significantly higher than the 45 GF.

The camera gets warmer than the GFX 100S under similar usage scenarios.

Hasselblad’s decision to mark the base ISO as ISO 64 or Fuji’s decision to mark the base ISO of the GFX 100S as ISO 100 seem to be based more on specsmanship and meter calibration than anything else. The actual sensor sensitivities differ only by a fifth of a stop. The sensors in the two cameras seem to perform materially the same.

The X2D has some advantages over the GFX 100S:

  • Leaf shutter lenses, which can give some flexibility with strobes.
  • With the XCD 38, a manual focusing mode that uses traditional DOF markers.
  • Better EVF
  • SSD
  • More modern flash card socket
  • Slightly smaller
  • Slightly lighter
  • Sleeker
  • Slightly better IBIS with the XCD 38 as compared to the GFX 100S with the GF 45.

It’s definitely a reasonable choice if you’re picking between it and the GFX 100S. You’ll pay more for the camera, and you’ll pay more for the lenses. You won’t get the features that the Fuji camera has. If you don’t need what the X2D doesn’t have, and you prize industrial design, you’ll end up with an elegant camera that does what you want.  At this point, if I weren’t a curious reviewer who buys cameras just because I think they’re interesting and I want to find out more about them, I’d wait until the next firmware release to pull the trigger. There’s just too much stuff missing right now for me to use the camera in the wide range of situations that are  within the comfort zone of the GFX 100S.

 

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Comments

  1. Matt O'Brien says

    October 7, 2022 at 3:18 pm

    Thanks for all this work….. I decided not to buy into the Fuji GFX100S because I felt the camera takes too long to read the data from the sensor… my sense is that the cpu and related bus architecture is just too slow. This I feel also impacts on potential autofocus option and synch speed for flash. I had already decided to wait for the next generation.

    I was hoping the X2D might have moved the technology a step ot two forward, but with so many features still required within the current firmware I will await the next generation of the X2D as well. I think it is only a matter of time before these cameras get the horsepower they need to drive such large sensors and what is now expected to be standard functionality / usability.

    Again, my thanks for all your efforts.

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    • JimK says

      October 7, 2022 at 3:28 pm

      At 14 bit precision, the GFX 100S takes about 170 milliseconds to read the data from the sensor.

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  2. Matt O'Brien says

    October 7, 2022 at 4:07 pm

    So, if my calcs are correct (and open to correction) that is very close to 1/15 of a second. This compares to 1/150th of a second for the a9 and 1/250th sec for A1.

    I am in no way expecting the internal performance of the X2D to match the a9/a1. Different tools for different jobs

    …. but with a sensor capture speed of 1/15 th approx sec, I am worried that I will be underwhelmed by autofocus and related features and will be more comfortable when I see less caveats in relation to autofocus when I read reviews.

    I am keen to step into the Medium Format space (Landscape, Travel,Portraits) but I live in Ireland and sourcing these cameras is extremely difficult, so I only get one chance to get this right.

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    • JimK says

      October 7, 2022 at 4:54 pm

      You won’t get readout speeds of stacked sensor cameras like the a1 and Z9 in the GFX cameras. You won’t get their AF performance, either.

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    • JimK says

      October 7, 2022 at 4:55 pm

      170 milliseconds is about 1/6 of a second.

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    • JimK says

      October 7, 2022 at 6:18 pm

      In terms of MP/s, the GFX readout rate is in line with other non-stacked sensors.

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  3. Robert says

    October 7, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    Interesting and – as far as I am able to judge – very fair picture of the camera. Thank you!
    I use H6D and X1D. X2D is already a worthy step from my point of wiev and for my use (landscape), so I am already saving 😉 It will take some time, maybe there will be new firmware until I am finished. And if not, never mind 🙂

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  4. Barry Benowitz says

    October 8, 2022 at 7:18 am

    Focus peaking. /Hasselblad seems to have a tough time developing this even in the H6D 100 c using an external monitor helps but Phocus software is their best solution and it’s cumbersome.
    Variable focus magnification, combined with peaking /This is of course mandatory for manual focus lenses also previous HC lenses seemingly one repeatabley banging his head against the wall as to why this is not included.
    Live histogram /Or better yet live histogram by channel this omission is the single biggest deal killer!
    Live overexposure zebras /Couldn’t agree more but Hasselblad might lack ability to include in future
    AF-C /A basic function that’s required period
    Focus bracketing/ Not just -1,0,+1
    Pixel shift/ Super strange exclusion from a company who’s past demonstrated high achievement with this operation.
    Lossless compressed raw / not a deal killer but worthy inclusion at this price point
    Cabled remote shutter release/ No exception for not including 5sec minimum for self timer in slight wind using a mobile app is a pain

    I would also add backwards compatibility as their current lens offering is not able to sway all users to the new camera system and by crippling last model lenses Hasselblad was done before they started!

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  5. Weston Harby says

    October 9, 2022 at 3:19 pm

    Jim,

    Ive read that hasselblad uses some non-linear curves as part of their color science solution. I’ve also read these curves affect raw files, independent of camera input profile. Not sure where I read it, it may not be true. Would be an interesting aspect to test.

    Reply
    • JimK says

      October 9, 2022 at 3:37 pm

      It’s not obvious to me how to test that other than look for anomalies in the photon transfer curves.

      Reply
    • JimK says

      October 10, 2022 at 11:55 am

      No evidence of that here:

      https://blog.kasson.com/x2d/hasselblad-x2d-fwc-rn-and-ptcs/

      Reply
  6. John M says

    October 23, 2022 at 11:34 pm

    Excellent review.
    I got mine early and am quite disappointed.
    I agree and I can’t believe that they released a camera which has been hobbled by so many missing features such as focus peaking and focus magnification (would have been useful for 3rd party lenses too). They should have just migrated the features that are already in the 907x.
    The strap lugs are terrible and I have read of others where those lugs have already become loose AND all for the sake of looking like the vintage camera lugs!
    I really hope they don’t disappoint us by taking away cabled tethering to iOS – another excellent feature on the 907x.
    John

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  7. stephen says

    May 21, 2023 at 4:08 am

    I agree re slight drawbacks. strap fitting and also it gets in the way when plugging in cable. Slow to start and also battery life could be better.

    I have 65mm and on Monday the 135 with convertor.
    Using my favoured Ni9kon 300mm lens I found focussing very difficult and gave up in the end.
    I am very pleased with some of the clicks so far and enjoy it.

    note my website ‘under construction’ and a little old, pre Hasse.

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  8. Jesse says

    November 11, 2024 at 10:46 am

    Looks like we have pixel shift now with v4.0 firmware, but no zebras or zoom-when-focusing. The 20-36 seems like that will help reduce manual lens usage for me, but I still want something around a 12mm (35mm equiv) for some of my super wides.

    Thank you for the myriad tests and data you enable us to consume without doing the actual testing ourselves 🙂

    Reply

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